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Quain Stott's new Gasser group has their website up and the rules are posted. Looks like it's clutch cars only.
They have some odd rules in the group. A strange mix of old and new that actually doesn't allow some original gassers, like the stick rule, and the rocker height rule. But then they allow a slight alteration to wheelbase length, full fiberglass bodies, and fabricated box tubing frames. Crazy stuff, that seems to almost be written around the group's own cars, and not the traditional or original gassers.
 

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I think they set up the rules to fit around the guys already running with them (grand-fathered). That's why the rules are funky.
 

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Some of the rules are beyond funky; they're ridiculous. Like the rule on the wheels. I sure understand not using the modern Centerline style wheels, but to disallow a wheel because the holes are slightly larger? What they've effectively done is to say you can't use these wheels that cost $750 a set, but you can use the other modern copies that cost $1500 a set. There's so little difference that the spectators would never care, but it hurts the guys on a tight budget that want to race also. I think when people make rules based on what they have already built, they forget about others who may not have the finances to build along the same lines. I probably wouldn't use most modern wheels, but they should allow a little more leeway to keep it affordable for the little guy. Making rules that are so selectively narrow only hurts the racers, it doesn't make the sport more enjoyable.
Sorry for the rant.
 

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Ya know I didn't even get passed the page where you agree to the waver. I've seen this in hot rod clubs ( clicks ) here in Pa. Where you may as well all have the same year car built to one set of specs to be allowed in there club or origination. I've also seen the very same groups deminsh because the crowd gets board. Now surely this is my very own opinion, but sometimes it seems that choices of rules are deliberit.
 

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Ya know I didn't even get passed the page where you agree to the waver. I've seen this in hot rod clubs ( clicks ) here in Pa. Where you may as well all have the same year car built to one set of specs to be allowed in there club or origination. I've also seen the very same groups deminsh because the crowd gets board. Now surely this is my very own opinion, but sometimes it seems that choices of rules are deliberit.
This has already happened with SE Gasser Assn. Steve. Their group splintered at the end of last season when about half of the group decided to spin off and start their own group with more relaxed (less specific) rules. That's the reason they have the rule in there that disallows any member from running in another group's event on the same weekend as theirs.
 

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The SE Gasser Assn rules read more like, "Do as I say not as I do." They are bound to have problems. I wish them and the other group luck. I plan to retire to Greenville,SC so I hope there's gasser racing around .

Anyone know who the "splinter group" is?
 

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The SE Gasser Assn rules read more like, "Do as I say not as I do." They are bound to have problems. I wish them and the other group luck. I plan to retire to Greenville,SC so I hope there's gasser racing around .

Anyone know who the "splinter group" is?
Since Quain has such loyal followers, it's been hard to find out who broke off, and where they plan to run! I know that Greer is home track for SE Gasser Assn., and they have a very close relationship, so not sure if the new group can run Greer. I talked to a guy who knows the splinter group, but didn't want to say who all was involved now until they have all their ducks lined up and their rules put together.
 

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I wish NOT to be part of this club. They are completely “living in the past.” This antique gasser club wants to keep the old membership intact and talked "in code" insider references etc. about past experiences in such a way that the newcomer gets a distinct impression that he isn't wanted. This club sounds like not very welcoming and friendly. Just my two cents worth....
 

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I don't see anything wrong with setting rules and sticking by them. But, if you set rules for some and not others that BS.
 

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I agree that rules are good. I also agree that rules to keep the era theme are also great! The problem becomes when you say you're making rules to maintain the integrity and correct era look, but you allow things that aren't era correct simply to accommodate those who made the rules. Or when you specifically disallow things that are era correct because those rules wont let you dominate the races.
There weren't any box or round tube chassis in the Gas class until near the end in 1969, nor fiberglass bodies. So allowing them in a group that is "era correct" seems odd. Not wanting to see modern equipment on the cars, and pointing out they want to maintain a correct look, but then allowing modern shifters like the straight line Long, or others that are so obviously not period when the spectators look into the cars. Or banning automatics, when simply banning trans brakes or lockup converters would allow period cars with automatics to run.
I personally am not a stickler for perfect period correct cars, but love groups that stick to that in their rules. Just don't like the mix of new and old where rules are "built" around the cars of those who made the rules, but exclude others that may be even more correct. It really sounds like they're more concerned about winning than retaining history. It's supposed to be fun isn't it? That's what I love about groups like Billetproof or Eagle Field. No winners, or trophies, so nobody cares who beat who, and everyone just runs and has a lot of fun!
 

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Once again Vall we agree..... some of the "has to be OR not be" are hard for me to understand.

When the "fine line" is drawn sometimes seems to be "too fine". So much so some of the things done by innovative trendsetter gasser class racers/builders would NOT be allowed or considered as "period correct".

IF by chance some of the famous gassers of the "golden era of drag racing" would magically re-appear just as they were in LATE-DAY-GASSER-ERA-TRIM would they be "OUTSIDE the LINE" of what is deemed "ERA CORRECT today????

So is the "fine line" MORE like "splitting hairs" ?????

PERIOD CORRECT ??????

 

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It's their playground so they can set the rules. I agree that such narrow rules will hurt them overall. But I wish them luck, more gasser racing is a good thing.
 

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Once again Vall we agree..... some of the "has to be OR not be" are hard for me to understand.

When the "fine line" is drawn sometimes seems to be "too fine". So much so some of the things done by innovative trendsetter gasser class racers/builders would NOT be allowed or considered as "period correct".

IF by chance some of the famous gassers of the "golden era of drag racing" would magically re-appear just as they were in LATE-DAY-GASSER-ERA-TRIM would they be "OUTSIDE the LINE" of what is deemed "ERA CORRECT today????

So is the "fine line" MORE like "splitting hairs" ?????

PERIOD CORRECT ??????

Don's Willys is a fantastic car, and meet's all his groups rules. I've looked at the rules his group runs, and like many they have made rules that attempt to maintain the integrity of the group, but occasionally omit even a original car. They have one rule about the bottom of the body being above the front spindle. I like that look, as it encourages straight axle cars, but there were thousands of original gassers that didn't have a straight axle, and would not be allowed.
Don's done a fantastic job making his Willys appear period, but it also is a complete fiberglass body, so wouldn't have been allowed back in the day. Might be a full box tube chassis if I remember correctly also. Neither of those things bother me, as long as ALL the rules are open enough to similarly allow some modern changes also. I just have a hard time accepting rules that are set up to retain a period theme, but mix and match what's acceptable. I'd almost rather see a group with two sets of rules, and two classes for them. One set like they have now, and another set that mimics one of the 60's NHRA rule books.
What I'd hate to see is the resurgence of nostalgia racing today hurt by these groups splintering and all failing. I've seen some cases where groups were very upset because they thought the rules weren't properly designed, or enforced, and refused to even race after a long haul to get there. That tells me they're more concerned with winning and prize money, than having fun. Only ones who lose when that happens is the fans who paid to see the m run, and got cheated by someone's stubbornness or ego. I've been to events with a year cutoff, and seen cars I knew were newer running. Never said a word, as I really don't care if they were, or if they beat me. The events were for fun and no trophies or payout, so whether someone was too new shouldn't affect how much fun I have. If I sat it out after a long haul, I'd be the one who was unhappy, and the paying crowd would see one less car run.
 

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first off if this is hard to read i apologize i stink at sentence structure lol

i know quains group very well and i know the splinter group even better...i agree with whats been said in here

quain i believe set the rules for what he wants to do and it makes it darn near impossible for the little guy to participate

like the no coilover rule

we all know gene cromers real deal gasser the "moonlighter" is as authentic as it gets but guess what it had coilovers originally and is a automatic

quain says the automatics that are grandfathered into his rules are the ones who supported him from the begining...heres my problem...since he started his group i already had my gasser project but it wasnt a gasser yet when he started racing his group but i attended every event he had and bought all t-shirts, posters,decals to be had to show my support and when my time rolled around and my automatic gasser arrived at his events i had to park mine on the other side of the pits from their gassers because it doesnt fit the criteria cause of my automatic

i followed them to every event they had never missed a event and i made my passes between SEG passes and not once has he or anyone spoke or said thanks for coming and your support
which is disapointing for me i just wanna participate
i cant win but i wanna play lol
 

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"i followed them to every event they had never missed a event and i made my passes between SEG passes and not once has he or anyone spoke or said thanks for coming and your support
which is disapointing for me i just wanna participate
i cant win but i wanna play lol"

That's pretty sad. And your situation probably isn't all that unique. The problem isn't those who they feel wont beat them; it's that they worry that someone who can beat them will come in and do so if they allow certain things for everyone. The fact they pick and choose who will be grandfathered in, and who wont just stinks of elitism. The idea was to have fun, and make it like drag racing used to be. But the way they run things it makes it no fun for many people. I think their house of cards will eventually collapse.
 

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Hey, don't forget you have to be able to pull at least a 1 foot wheelie, but whos gonna measure. Even NHRA has had to change rules to make accomadations for different thins like in super stock and stock. I also agree with all the above.
 
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