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Brendon's '55 Gasser thread

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Hi guys:

Since I'm not too far along yet with this build I figured I'd start a thread here from the beginning. I also have some pics of this on the tri-five forum and Hotrodders.com site.

I bought my '55 a few years back as a stalled race car project. It was nothing more than an empty shell with a rotted floor and a few parts bolted onto it. It sat as I finished up my '67 Firebird project and now that my 'bird is running I have slowly started on this one. My first task was to get the paperwork squared away, and then I tore out the rusty floors. I've since replaced the inner rockers, rebuilt some of the floor supports and reinstalled that. I also added some extensions onto the frame for future roll bar structure. I also replaced the rusty trunk floor, however, I only used smaller patch panels as I didn't see the benefit of paying more $$ for a full trunk floor when I'd be chopping half of it back out to make room for the wheel tubs that came with the car.

The previous owner chopped out the wheel wells with a plasma cutter and took out too much material, so I'll be making some flanges to fill in the gaps (you'll see that in the last pics). That'll be my next task and then onto the passenger side tub.

My goal with this build is to make a rough looking yet wallet friendly build. I spent way too much on my last car so I'd like to keep this one a little more reasonable. It'll be streetable, have a clutch pedal, run on pump gas, and scare prius owners. It'll probably more poser than full on race car. No idea on powerplant yet. The car came with some aftermarket leaf springs and traction bars, and I've located a front axle from a '57 chevy truck so it'll have a good stance, and I've already scored some 200s rims (same as the '55 from 2 lane blacktop).





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Brendon what happened when you went for the 10 minute ride. Did the front end bounce up and down real hard?
Looks like it should certainly strengthen the arm well Brendon! And if that doesn't do it there's something amiss with the steering.
Looks like "John Henry" did a good job.
LOL!!
Brendon what happened when you went for the 10 minute ride. Did the front end bounce up and down real hard?
the front end is stiff from the springs. Almost thing I need to remove a set of leafs, but I'd like to get more drive time in . I didn't get on the engine at all. If possible I'd like to break in the parts, not just break them, ha ha
Looks like it should certainly strengthen the arm well Brendon! And if that doesn't do it there's something amiss with the steering.
I sure hope this fixes it. if not, I'm not sure what else could be wrong with the steering.
Maybe I missed your post But if that arm became bent after a drive you had to feel something happening with your steering wheel. Did the steering bounce from left to right real hard ? That steering arm wouldn’t bend just dragging the tire inward.
Maybe I missed your post But if that arm became bent after a drive you had to feel something happening with your steering wheel. Did the steering bounce from left to right real hard ? That steering arm wouldn’t bend just dragging the tire inward.
I think it could Mario. Especially with the long spacer that gives a lot of leverage to help it bend. Just trying to turn the steering wheel when the car isn't moving, and you're turning the wheel will have more leverage to bend the arm than you'd have driving and turning, or hitting a bump. If it happened while driving I'd expect to see bad drag link angle that would cause bump steer. But his car has a nice flat drag link, so shouldn't have any deflection as it hit a bump to cause the arm to bend. Likely it happened sitting still, and trying to turn the wheels.
Agreed with Vall. There was no crazy bumpy/ bouncing around. No drag racing, no off roading, no major potholes. just drove around the suburbs of Long Beach as well as pulling in and out of my driveway. That steering arm is (was) just a flat bar stock with nothing to support a torsional load on it which that spacer I have is creating. it's simple torque and leverage as that spacer offset the forces of the steering input which creates a greater torsional load which in turn could cause that arm to twist like it did. I almost feel stupid for not seeing it sooner. If my heim joint was right up next to it (as it is on my lower steering arms) then the offset forces would be significantly decreased. Hopefully my reinforcing of the steering arm will overcome this as having the spacer allows my drag link to remain flat for minimizing bump steer. If this doesn't work then I'll probably need to remove the spacer and live with a little bump steer.

After seeing how quickly my one arm bent I'm still thinking that I might want to reinforce my lower steering arms. Maybe not as much, but adding a wall on the edge would give it a "T" shape which would help...
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Before I bought the ones you have I did find stories of the arms bending and breaking but they all seemed to be caused by the arms coming loose and work harding...your car is big and heavy...it might be well worth the time to do all of the arms...better safe than sorry
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I'd rather have a little angle to my drag link, than use much of a spacer. I've seen this happen other times when tall spacers are used. Having half as much spacer would eliminate it likely, and I doubt you'd notice any bump steer from the slight angles.
I've used those flat bar steering arms on numerous builds for myself, and other's cars, and not had one bend yet.
I'd rather have a little angle to my drag link, than use much of a spacer. I've seen this happen other times when tall spacers are used. Having half as much spacer would eliminate it likely, and I doubt you'd notice any bump steer from the slight angles.
I've used those flat bar steering arms on numerous builds for myself, and other's cars, and not had one bend yet.
Noted, and the spacer itself is maybe 1" in length. It's now necessary as my steering arm has the "I beam" shape going around the entire bolt hole and is just long enough to clear it. I'd have to cut that away to allow the heim joint to sit next to the flat part of the steering arm again.
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some updates:

1- got the car aligned on Friday. Turns out my axle is bent so my camber is not the same on both sides, nor is the caster for that matter. the caster is easy enough to fix with more shimming on one side, but the car seems to drive straight enough to not be worth the fuss, and the camber also isn't affecting the drive, but visually it does bug me a little. I understand there's a shop in LB that specializes in bending axles, so I may look into this at some point. it's not an urgent repair. More importantly, my steering arm seems to be holding up so far. I'm still keeping an eye on it, though. Also of note the car is only .02º from being square, so I did a decent job building this. Makes me very happy.

2- got the windows tinted today. It looks so much better now, imo. I had bought a bunch of vintage stickers for the side window, so I'm not sure yet if I'll sticker bomb them or not. At the least I may play around with mocking it up to see if I like the look or not.

3- tomorrow I'm taking the car in for a tune so they can adjust the FI and timing and get this to run better. It needs it.


Still have some things to fix on it like I'm still leaking some oil from my valve covers, or the hydroboost, but I believe it's my valve cover where I had modified it. either the modification didn't hold, or it never sealed i nthe first place. either way I'll be replacing the valve covers soon with something else that doesn't need modification for clearance. stayt tuned on that.

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So I guess the engine rebuild went well?
The window tint is a nice touch on any gasser, and makes it look more period. I've got red on my Austin, and I like the look, but it is a bit odd to look through. Usually have the front windows rolled down on warm days, and I didn't tint the back window or windshield, as I just wanted the sides done.
Sounds like you have everything in order. Tint looks great. good job.
LOL, today has basically undone everything to this point.

woke up this morning and both the rear window and one of the rear sides has peeled. won't go back, won't settle down with a card either.. so I had to pull the one side off. the rear window will likely need to be redone too. a corner has lifted and there's no adhesion to it whatsoever. it's about the size of a piece of bacon.

Next, I took a half day of to go take it for a tune, and got about 12 miles form my house when I noticed my windshield is sprinkled with dots that aren't evaporating, and the interior is starting to look smokey. so I pull over and my entire engine/ engine bay is doused in oil. Luckily I have AAA and waited 90 minutes for a tow home (took them that long to get to me). I shared what happened with my engine builder and he came down to check it out. turns out my front main seal popped out. now this needs to be fixed. and cleaned. and windows redone. but it could have been worse.
oh wow, sorry for all that. just plain sucks.
This engine has given me its share of challenges, that's for sure. My builder had the car towed to his shop today to work on it. Couldn't ask for any better service than that.
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After replacing the valve cover gaskets and using a bit of silicone to seal them, replacing the power steering gearbox adapter fittings, adding silicone to the front four intake bolts (and ultimately drilling 3x ⅛" holes in the thermostat for a small bypass as my water pump doesn't have one), and replacing the lower radiator hose clamp I seem to have a leak free car. for the moment anyway, and I was able to put some miles on it over the weekend. On Thursday I had my friend Rob drive it (I took the Firebird) and we participated in a small car show near the Pike in downtown Long Beach as part of the Thunder Thursday- the beginning event for the Long Beach Grand Prix. The 55 gathered a crowd every time I looked. Families took pics by it, people were checking it out, and I even saw one kid run his toy car along the door. at least the parent quickly put a stop to that. I also took it up to a friends place on Saturday while making brake lines for his '67 Chevy truck, and I did some driving around today as well. Below are pics from Thursday, event. A group of us met up and then cruised to the show.


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This is cool- the folks from Gassers West used a pic of my car to advertise their upcoming event over at the Lions Automobilia Foundation Museum. I'm looking forward to going to this

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Just some various pics I took of the car today. Even took my wife for her first ride in the car as well as her grand niece and took them to lunch.

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